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Old 2nd Mar 2006, 22:55
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You just don't get it

You guys just don't get it.

Like all other businesses, the salaries of pilots are determined by the economic (market) conditions. Because the economic conditions fluctuate, but the salaries are much more rigid, there are times when the two are out of balance. At these times, pressure will come on (seemingly all by itself) to restore the balance. Like how the fin on your aircraft acts for example!

In fact, given the rigidity of pilot's salaries and the current imbalance between salaries and economic conditions (not just in airlines but in many areas of GA), you can expect that future terms and conditions will have remuneration levels that are much more flexible. A good manager would make this a goal when negotiating EBAs.

Capt Bloggs said:
From an outsider looking in, do you think that whatever the outcome of the Jet* vote, that will have flow on effects to the regional ops ie D8, Braz, saab, etc. Those guys/girls are already lowly paid mate, half of nothing is nothing!!!!!!!!!!
Capt Bloggs, the salaries of the pilots to which you refer have already been set by the economic conditions. When those salary levels next change, it will be as a result of a change in the economic conditions - not by anything to do with Jetstar. They are not in any way affected by salaries at Qantas or Jetstar! It may appear at times that there is a connection between airline and GA salaries but in reality it is the economic conditions that are common to both.

Aliex Sex God said:
Please, for the sake of us out in there in GA striving for airlines, vote no. We don't need GA terms and conditions for the rest of our careers.
ASG, you seem to think that Jetstar is capable of paying the pilots what you think is a good salary. Do you think that money grows on trees? As a low cost carrier, just where do Jetstar get the money to be able to do that?

Rostov said:
The A320 fleet manager is on about 60k less than his QF 737 equivilant.
Very good point. This helps to illustrate the different economics between LCC and traditional carrier. Here is a tip: whatever that percentage works out to, you can apply to QF pilot salaries with the result being what the Jetstar pilots can reasonably expect.
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