why a group then? - why not just hire and have none of the ownership hassles? - you will always find a club with an aeroplane if you want to go touring - just pre pay for a block of hours in advance - makes no difference whether you fly them 1 hour over ten weeks or 10 hrs in 4 days - if they whinge - just say ok - i will find another club that will - im sure they wil change their tune if your a regular flyer with them.???