Roni f, couldn't agree more. i wouldn't suggest anyone cause a scene in trying to extract the info. and i imagine anyone who is refused on the basis of being a 'threat to national security' would probably have a good idea themselves as to what denied them the job. It does seem unfair tho that NATS wont tell ppl why they didn't make the grade. I fully intend on re-applying in 12 months and am just frustrated i cant spend the time concentrating on my weakest points. I imagine alot of ppl are in that boat with me?