Apologies if I have offended anyone with my statement. As stated before I have been in a long time, still love the job, work closely with aircrew and have enjoyed reading this forum. I believe it has started some excellent debate, and its debate on the Chinook enquiry, Ben Mcdui and a couple of other threads have been vital, however this is the last contribution that I will make on this forum. Apart from some obvious journo seeking, the forum is becoming an 'aircrew against the world' forum. I don't wish to put all the aircrew in the same basket but some of the threads have been personal and unneccessary. I will read with interest from now on, but no more input, small as it may have been. Well done Tourist, just remember the next time you have a low level abort in IMC that the idiot at the other end of the radio trying to help you is 'god forbid' not aircrew but I will try my utmost to keep you safe.