Originally Posted by Alex Whittingham
In that case, I agree with you. The VMCG accident will happen one day, I'm afraid, and the O'Hare DC10 crash could arguably have been avoided with better training. Your other examples show the profession at its best but, unfortunately, for every incident where the crew pull a rabbit from the hat you can find another one where they underperformed.
I don't believe it 'better training' would have changed it. I believed the crew performed as they were trained.
There were multiple issues.. 1) the procedure they used as did many at that time was to climb at V2 or V2+20 as max speed and if you were above that speed, you increased pitch to reduce speed back to V2+20. 2) they were not aware that there was no lock-out with a hydraulic failure and when the hyd failed, the slats retracted. The combination of those factors, as I remember, created the roll for which there was insufficent control.
Both problems were addressed in the post crash findings.