This is a valid and interesting thread which should continue, it may by the nature and scale of the consequences to many, become heated, but, has come within an ace of being closed because of some intemperate language by Beerplease in reponse to some observations by some 89ers.
I am not sticking up for either side, we just dont need the language.
Please, give us all a break and discuss the issues in a civilised manner.
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