Dear pba_target, If you look back within this thread you will in fact see that this thread was 'hijacked' by frigthestoat, a point I made in my opening line of my first post. As he has chosen to use this thread to raise a point about the VGS system it is only right and proper that I also use this thread to reply. As for 'backbiting', try searching recent previous threads about the Volunteer Gliding Squadron setup and the accusations flying around in those, then you will see some real backbiting from frig and his mates, who are trying to undermine the good work of one VGS in particular by slander and frankly seditious behaviour. If such behaviour had been demonstrated by Officers in a 'regular service' then I am sure charges would have been brought against these 'backbiters'. If you want more details PM me.