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Old 30th Jan 2006, 01:45
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mebro
 
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Naivity at it's best !!!!

Where do I start, I can't help but laugh at human nature, as to how dubious one can be for personal gain.

Delta 6, your ingridients for this cocktail has been, truth laced with contracdicting statements for an after taste (cas until u read the thread a few times, one can't get the real picture) , key ingridient-lots of only the freshest kind of naive ideas, and a dash of truth here and there.

I will be harsh on you D6, cas u need to get it very clear what u'r suggesting is not on and I will remind u this again at the end of the post. Not in anyway to say that there may or may not be an airline willing to entertain u'r terms and conditions to suit u but I sincerely doubt it.

Thermal image it took me a while like u to figure out this puzzle as well and the example is exactly what D6 would like to do but he is been very very coy going about.

Lets start breaking this down:

D6 I refer to your phrase on one of your post "and yes, they are paying for the type rating. So, much to my disappointment" and

then you let a crucial bit of information out which catches u out red handed-that you are not telling the truth...."If for some reason I find an employer during this time, I will have to repay the funds used for my endorsement to my employer."---U have interlaced this with a twist to blaltently mislead cas u also said "Someone else is paying for my type rating, and getting hours and not paying for it"

In other words put in simply for what ever reasons which doesn't need to be known your current employer is willing to give you a loan to do a type rating, to help you progress in your chosen career -there is nothing wrong in that..and what a great deal/break for u but you will have to pay the money back to u'r current employer once u find employment based on the TR

D6 going back to u'r example, which is what u want to do irrespective of how and who pays for the TR you would preferrably do it with an airline who will turn around and give a job to get the benchmark 500 hrs on type which most airlines ask for without a commitment to stay or commit till such time as u get the 500 hrs u want and then u go where ever u want....NOTHING wrong in looking at this option

you are self exploiting u'r self, But the SINFUL thing is you wanting to work for free to get this 500 hrs (and yes u'r are trying to prostitute u'r self) but EXPECTING to be paid per-diem to help offset u'r day to day living cost and then the atrocity to tell Thermal image his views are so wrong and I quote u D6 "Prostituting myself ?.... Someone else is paying for my type rating, and getting hours and not paying for it ( as some pays for ICUS ) is hardly that"

against TI's quote "It does sound like exploitation / prostituting yourself though. Soon enough someone will come in and flame you for even thinking about such an arrangement"

D6 you are warrped in your head to think, along the lines of ICUS which is commonly done is Australia, i.e.paid for by a pilot wanting to get hrs in a particular aeroplane type to gain employment, taking this to an all new level that is an airline without understanding the concept of LOFT and JUSTIFYING it by saying I am not paying for it.

D6 u'r quote "Not getting paid for it was a difficult decision as I am still employed by the mob who is paying for the type rating. I can't have two employers. It's a conflict of interest" the only conflict is the direction u want to go without losing the safety of your current employment.

D6 your original post should have read something like this ....I have funds to do a TR, is there an airline out there who will type me, give me a job as F/O, however I will only commit till I get my 500 hrs, by the way you (the airline) will not have to pay me during the period I work for u to get the 500 hrs but I expect a per-diem to help me out with daily expenses..........is there any airline who will accept my selffish terms and conditions so I can get ahead in my career.

Nothing short of my last paragraph is what u'r thought process and intentions are ..deny it all u want if u choose to do that u'r kidding no one else but u'r self.

Please forget the idea of working for free, u will destroy the industry, it's already tough in GA but u wanting to take this to a higher level into an airline is just out right selfish and not acceptable in the industry

So get this idea outta u'r head and if u ca't get someone close to u to bang u on that brain of u'rs so get it ..IT'S NOT ON !!!!!!

By all means do look at all possible avenues to progress including self funding a TR, but there is not short cut in aviation or life for that matter
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