Re Fudging ETA's
"You could start giving ETAs which are 3 or 4 minutes ahead of your own schedule for a while to see if you can beat them at their own game ??"
I hope this was said tongue in cheek otherwise everyone is going to get rather hacked off!!!! I hope everyone can be professional about this and realise the error of their ways. ( I know pilots from the airlines in question read this forum regularly!!!). The controller in the procedural environment is at times at the mercy of the pilot estimate. This can however be remedied to a degree by asking certain crews their range etc and a quick calculation should confirm the reasonable accuracy (or not???) of the estimate. Granted again in the Procedural environment it can by then be a bit late in changing the order. So come on everyone lets try and play the game fairly and correctly.