Then, FSU, and I reiterate it for you, you would have been better getting ACTIVE in the AFAP. maybe then you wouldn't be a scab. And you suggest Bert Smithwell (QF) was unworthy of Dick's shadow? I doubt that. . .Tank, your then Chairman took you out of the AFAP for the wrong reasons.. .The QF pilots believed they could do better, and the fact is they have not. The fragmentation of professional pilots in Australia, where the power base is small ( compared to USALPA), can only be detrimental to all professional pilots.. .As for GA, the AFAP did more for GA pilots than any other organisation, because there wasn't one. GA being what it is, GA pilots will always feel isolated individually, but generally they are better off than without the AFAP.. .Take my advice, GET INTO THE AFAP AND GET ACTIVE.. .Otherwise we retirees will continue to watch the profession become exactly what Abeles and Hawke and Kelty intended. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="cool.gif" />