Puff, you got it in one, it will be over in about 2029 when most of us will be six feet under or too old to give a rat's...until then it will consume a percentage of the Oz pilot population no matter what good fortune they have enjoyed since. And whoever started this post should be ashamed for arcing up these unfortunates all over again. Or is it a plot to have them drop out of the industry due stress? Meantime it's baaaad vibes if these feelings are encouraged to run in even a few cockpits out there, and when this stuff gets in to an entire company culture it has all sorts of dire potential.. .I have pleaded for a separate forum just for the 1989 issue before, so, again PLEASE, can we have a spot on pprune elsewhere for this? I am neither for nor against discussion on the various rights and wrongs of 89, just let's not have it dominate Dunnunda.