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Old 10th December 2005 | 11:54
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Ropey Pilot
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pilots are rated equivalent to car drivers
I often wonder if people genuinely misunderstand points made in a discussion or if they choose to misunderstand them so they can get upset

When have I (or anyone else) said that?

I say that if you can be trained to do one you can be trained to do the other - very different. You can learn to drive a car in 3 days (I took my test after a 3 day intensive course with a driving school - I failed though ) but it was only on one item, a mistake which equally I - or someone better - may not have made.

No one, whether it is Chuck Yeager or Joe Bloggs, can physically complete an ATPL in anywhere like that time or with anywhere near as little work - it will be much more on both counts and much much more in some cases (all depends on the individual).

the majority get shafted before the argument can be pushed in any way
And I ask you as I aked maximum -what argument are you pushing to whom with the hope of a pay rise? If the number of people in the world who have the ability to ever pass the ATPL is strictly limited - and no amount of training will ever help these poor souls improve to the point there they could pass the CPL skills test (and I am assuming your disagreement with me gives you this standpoint) then the upcoming pilot shortage will sort our terms and conditions out for itself.

Even if you could convince management and the entire world that we are some sort of uber-Gods with special powers no-one will say great, have a pay rise - they will say great, are there any uber-Gods willing to work for less; and while there are the pay will not increase!

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