But that's normal too!
The SAAF guys always had the self-starters complaining too, and looking deeper into the case, personally, with an exception here and there, methinks a lot of ex-SAAF goes does the trumpet blowing. Granted.
The issue is, the civies/self-starters NEVER wanted, demanded the loops for them to be lowered!
Or am I missing the point here?! Again, there is no substitute for experience.
MF