Quite a sad state of affairs. Know quite a few of the old timers still there and things not sounding too good for them. New offer from management very typical of their short sightedness; new recruits starting salary bumped up but the longer serving guys get very little. Many of the very senior experienced guys seriously looking around now as the incentive (salary) to stay is no longer there; better to go as first year capt somewhere else with a longivity package.... sad to see guys with over 15 years service now looking for greener pastures. Used to be such a good airline to work for! Good luck guys!