I would have to agree with Capt Claret.. .. .Puff, the initial purpose of this thread was asking about the notam describing the disabled 210 on the runway at Groote.. .. .As for Bagot's post, maybe, just maybe it might be enough to dissuade the next young guy out there who might be temporarily thinking about throwing his usual professional standards out the window to succumb to the thrill of a low level pass in front of his mates.. .. .I'm sure the family and friends of this young man would not object to the possibility of saving another young life through Jason's legacy.