My word, again i have to ask the question do people actually read the threads here or just insert mythical inferrals and references?? its truely amazing! Mark D, sorry boy, but if you read my original script PROPERLY you would see that i did not compare an embraer to an 555+ seat airbus (how stupid a remark would that be). what i said was its a great lower end model to compete against A319 or B737 etc. You also missed the point that it was not i who orriginally suggested that runway lengths needed to be increased, that was information passed on by "TheOddOne" and in fairness i think what HE was getting at was taxi ways and general runway infrastructure ugrading. i was talking about gates and terminals!! Anyway i was NEVER said the Embraer is better than an airbus or a boeing or a sabb (again READ the damn post)! I was trying to to say to all the airbus fun club to stop hyping up a plane that hasnt even flown yet for an airline nor proven itself and which in fact is running behind schedule. what the hell is your point about Embraer getting finance from brazil all about? its nonsensical! every state that manufactures planes supports it for political reason to keep jobs and tries its best to save it even during bankrupcy. its true for boeing or airbus or saab, i dare say its true for embraer and bombardier Crj and all the others out there. again think about what you are trying to say before you jump the gun, you only make youself look silly. As for the Raf using the Airbus...well duh! politics matey! they hung onto the tornado F3, the biggest heap of junk for years due to political pressure from BAe (ie all the jobs that would be lost and greedy awful yanks would come in and replace our eurofighter if we go down that road etc etc) when the RAf wanted to lease f16s and look at other alternatives till the typhoon came in. The tacano from what here works just fine so i dont know what your point its there. FR was off topic i agree but more a response to a challange in an earlier thread.
Panda k bear, as far as factory assembly goes. I cannot say that i have been to an embraer factory, or any other factory where the essamble large aircraft but if you say that you have and their methods are shoddy well I cannot disprove you but I dont quite believe it. sorry what you are suggesting is kinda slanderours too. why do you dislike ERJ so much? Do you equally dislike the CRJ and MD? Again i should point out im not a poster boy fan of the ERJ, I was using it as an EXAMPLE of a different aircraft to airbus or even boeing, I could have just said a BAE146. Again guys read carefully and make sure you understand whats being said not racing through material and coming up with all the wrong conclusions.
AS for looks...now come on mate you cannot honestly put you hand on your heart and say looks do not count. if you asked any pilot whether or not they'd like a go at flying say the concord or a fokker 50...well you get the point.
Again all i was saying was the A380 isnt there yet so i wouldnt get all wet about it at night, plus read flight international, good article about it out just now.
Finally i was making the point about all the anti-american hype on the message boards these days. interesting how all the come-back havent brought that up. perhaps they agree and have to attack in other ways, if only they could ready properly.
cheers