It would be nice to think that somewhere on that "blank bit of paper" where 5 managers are putting down their "think the thinkable" or was it "think the unthinkable" solutions to BAs problems that one of them might remember that whatever its faults CFE made money and had a commited workforce-that in its self might help BA deceid where it goes next-BA needs to change radically irrespective of the LH v SH argument and having a management and workforce structure thats not afraid of itself and can actually operate without being tied by every rule and proceedure invented by man cant be a bad start.