.... and none of us were reccomend that a newly minted PPL tried to do anything outside of the POH. Which is WHY I quoted the POH figures.
The question was also being answered as to why people fly at these common TRAINING airfields when the figures state that it should be impossible. I say again.... TRAINING airfields not tight little strips that require an experianced pilot on type.
What I am saying is that I think a year of "club" flying will probably make them incapable of flying into tighter strips because they fly the aircraft incorrectly either through evolution of bad practice or more commonly through bad instruction.
I sit and watch people fly 152's like they are airliners, massive circuits and eating runway like a model on coke.
If the pilot fly's the aicraft in accordance with the POH and is taught to fly it that way correctly then all of the airfields mentioned at the start of this post are easily achievable.
A good pilot who wanted to fly to one of these fields and was concerned would seek guidance and maybe an accompanied flight with an instructor first.
And if pilots flew the correct numbers instead of the common 10 -20kts over the correct speed they would need less runway!