Rescue 137 - the 115 minutes turnaround are not turnaround times downroute, they are turnaround times at LHR where our cabin crew seem to be unique in their inability to stay on board an aircraft. I get the impression from your posts that you do not actually work in the airline industry as you seem somewhat pre-occupied with the idea of everybody shagging each other down route. I can assure you most flight crew have a pretty good idea what the cabin crew job involves through either having worked as crew or being the partner of crew or simply sitting down the back as a pax on a regular basis. Sadly that knowledge is not reciprocated. On the subject of GG, having sacked them as you suggest, who would you suggest could take over the contract at short notice?
Anti-ice - the breaks I refer to, as you well know, occur on any double day or any trip when you pass through LHR.
These are by no means odd occasions but will occur
every time the crew do a 3 or 4 sector day. The minimum short turnaround time is 1hr50mins up to a max of 2hr 30, so you'll really have to be on minimum turnaround times to get less than 40 minutes rest, not withstanding the requirement to have a minimum of 30 minutes 'time at table' to eat. And don't forget the £35 you get as compensation for accepting an STR. Longer than that and you go back to Compass, and people go back to Compass more often than they go to CAT.
He is making out they are commonplace and waste company time, while they have long been in our contract,and are one of the rare decent things we have left.
They are commonplace, and just because they have been in your contract since the 70s doesn't mean they don't waste company time.
Your combined base turnarounds for September could not total 115 minutes unless you only did one base turnaround all month. As I've already mentioned, minimum STR is 1hr50. It would appear we are calculating these in different ways. How do you calculate 115mins?
He obviously doesnt like the fact that cabin crew even try to have a break , or even sit down for a bit and relax , even though he spends 90% of his job sat down
I don't have a problem with you having a break, but a 3 hour break? As for the 90% sat down comment, see my response to R137 about the lack of reciprocal knowledge.
have nothing against any flightcrew
Except believing that as we spend '90% of our time sat down' we're not doing any work.
Whatever happened to good CRM??!?
Do you think you could call the flight deck if you saw flames coming from an engine after take off? If the answer is yes then CRM is working. It's not about being nice to each other. I suggest you read TightSlots excellent post about CRM
here.
Flying Sarah
C'mon guys, us cabin crew didn't make the rules. It's not our fault the company don't work us efficently
You may find BASSA had rather a lot to do with it! That said, the rest of your comments are spot on! You'd be amazed how easy it is to spot the crew who have come from EF LGW, bmi, Virgin, Easyjet or the charter world compared to the dyed in the wool EF LHR crew. Their attitudes are poles apart. Its refreshing to see somebody who can compare the job to real world occupations for once.