Fluke Skywalker - thank you for your posting because it totally confirms the key point that I made in my earlier posting i.e. that it seems that within BA every department thinks that it is perfect and the problems are all due to other departments, which is clearly your view as far as BA/EOG pilots and their T&Cs are concerned. My point again is that if those at BA don't soon start to accept that there can be problems in their own areas, as well as in other areas, and thus make no efforts to put their own house in order, I suspect that BA's LGW operation will continue to steadily disappear up its own jet pipe to the great benefit of Stelios and others like him.