alf... if I must indeed reverse the statements for the benefit of "the less disciplined or less experienced readers of this forum", then it'll probably be lost on them no matter which way I phrase it. However, I felt that I was making a point with the order in which I made those statements and I beleve that I'd considered my words quite carefully at the time. People will always read whatever they like into whatever is said on PPRuNe anyway so, in the end, we can only do the best we can in our own ways.