Fokker, totally agree with you on your last comments. I flew the Q400 for about 2 years and I loved it. Ok, it wasn't the best designed aircraft in the world, but as soon as the company moved away from the SOP's that were left over from the F27 and Dash Classic then it became a pleasure to fly. It is one of those aircraft that if you understand the machine, it is easy to fly....and fun to land....making greasers even more pleasing!!!