Boeing Belly, you really are a confused soul! The BNE/QLD "bucket and spade" market was what was initially referred to - and is largely NZ'ers holidaying in Aussie - re SYD-LAX etc - bear in mind QF also operates AKL-LAX - Kiwi's tvl QF AKL-LAX, Aussies tvl NZ SYD - LAX - it's called choice - the market rules - what IS your problem with this?? And your UA analogy is not correct - ex NZ/Aust UA uplifts people who are not all US nationals - so everyone is riding on top of everyone, to use your expression - THAT's BUSINESS - Airlines, like all busines, make money wherever they can - ever heard of tghe GLOBAL market??