Popay: do pilots in Northern Europe have to think through these climb criteria when they do flight planning? Or to earn a specific license? Can it be that insane? As somebody said, it is hard to imagine sending you where there is no SID or departure info, or Jeppesen approach charts. Do you guys operate flights to such airports on a schedule? This is why we have Dispatchers, and even all the regionals here have been under Part 121 for about ten years, requiring actual Dispatch, instead of just Flight Following.
A USAF C-130 crashed during climb-out years ago in Jackson Hole, WY, partly due to the ludicrously compressed written (military) 'NOS' info about how to fly the departure. Of course the dead Aircraft Commander was blamed. It is quite a paragraph of radial this, radial that... gibberish horses**t. There was nothing simple or logical, and nothing graphic, as we have in our Jeppesens for Montana etc. There was a chartered Learjet which attempted a circling approach, AT NIGHT(!), at Eagle Colorado years ago, and they must have had Jepps, but they apparently knew nothing about the mountains
. Our 757 crews receive very specialized training each year, just for EGE! Some captains avoid the airport (I might avoid it and LAX...).
On a different note, why is our military to cheap or bureaucratic to convert to Jeppesens? Is it job security for the NOS people? I politely asked an officer, via e-mail, years ago at AMC (formerly MAC) headquarters at Scott AFB, and the answer was total bureaucratic baloney.
