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Old 2nd October 2005 | 11:29
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pinkpilot150
 
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From: Wolves
"Is somebody making money from the flight?"
That's not the test:-
But it seems to work - from the ANO - aerial work means any purpose (other than public transport) for which an aircraft is flown if valuble consideration is given or promised in respect of the flight or the purpose of the flight.
- If anybody (anybody) is making money - its either aerial work or public transport. Is the pilot being paid? - then it's aerial work or public transport.

"aerial work can be either a public or a private flight."
'Aerial work' is a category of Private flight.
- fair enough, to keep it clean in my head I always think aerial work includes public transport (working in the air!). My bad! Should have made that clear - but it does not change the intent.

"So....how do you figure out if it's a public transport flight. Simple - are there any paying passengers on the flight where a passenger is defined in the ANO."
That's not the test. Actually I think it is for our purposes:-

- from the ANO - "bla bla bla...deemed to fly for the puposes of public transport if valuble consideration is given or promised for the carriage of passengers"

"Aerial Work - but in the public flight category"
- yup - my bad again! By that I meant not Public Transport - sorry!

"Is somebody making money from the flight - yes they are so it is Aerial Work"
The CAA might well say that, but the ANO doesn't.
Actually, I think it does - see above - and by Aerial Work - I actually meant Aerial Work or Public Transport!

By the way - I am an engineer, not a lawyer so I have to simplify things so I can understand them! And if I t

Basic question is:-

Does Aerial Photography where the photographer pays the pilot require an AOC according to the ANO?

My answer (which may well be wrong) is YES!

Is valuble consideration (money) being given (yes - to the pilot) for the carriage of passenger (yes - the photographer is bein carried). Therefore - is seems to be simple (sorry) but this is a Public Transport Flight and threfore needs an AOC.

In answer to mickjoebill......I give up. Its all a load of B*^*Cks. I just get my head around it then I read it again in another context and it all goes to pot. I hate the CAA. I wish I was a Lawyer and not just an engineer!

I still stand by my reconing above on Aerial Photography though but what happens when it's all operated by a company - god knows. It took my 2 months to get this far!

Jesus........
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