Thanks Skase;
I actually suspected that was the case - I was trying to get Mr Pig to confirm it though as he has lots of contacts in NZ. I have met a couple of controller's from New Zealand and there seems to be quite a gap in what Tennis was claiming and hearing it straight from the source. Interesting though that NZ has an experienced controller program and AsA doesn't. I guess that if AsA wants to be considered a leader in the world of ATS this might be something that they want to look at.