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Old 24th Sep 2005, 14:59
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Toadpool
 
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Mil/Civ operations.

Rej, the rules you refer to may be yours, but they are not mine.

Surely this was the whole point in this thread being started. To a civil ATCO co-ordination is the act of negotiation,etc,etc. The phraseology "your traffic not above xxx, my traffic not below xxx" and "co-ordination agreed" is not required.

As I have said before, I fully understand that the mil ATCO was only following her instructions.

If the other ATCO concerned was civilian the exchange wolud probably have been something like " XXXX here, what's the xxxx 10 miles east of you doing?" , "Not above 3000' " , "Roger, Thanks". This is if the call was made at all.

Flower says in his post at the start of this thread that it takes 3 times as long to hand an aircraft to a military ATCO than to a civil one. This is often time we do not have.

Why does it take so long? Is it because military procedures cause an unnecessary increase in workload? Are civil ATCOs really being gash and unprofessional?

It is not for me to say, but I do feel it needs addressing.
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