Oh I forgot to add. A quick straw poll at the weekend of a busy club with 100+ members showed that among those that fly cross-country regularly, only 4 pilots (all of which have a National rating) said that they cloud climb; and of the 4 the total cloud climbs taken this year is 7 - all bar one were in competitions. The actual incidence is very very low. It's not an every day occurance as may of us have stated in previous posts and we don't spend long in clouds anyway when we do cloud climb. That possibly accounts for why it's very unlikely you'll actually hear anyone cloud climbing on 130.4 on most days.