Whirly - You're quite right times have changed, but the difficulty is trying to put down chapter and verse of the current requirements, made especially complicated if you hold this, but not that and have time on the other (if you see what I mean). If one reads GID26 JAR CPL(H) (17/10/01)there's all sort of changeable parameters that Abbeville might want to consider. Abbeville holds (one assumes) an ATPL so does get dispensations all over the place. I was trying to give a general overview of the sort of costs to be expected, ie lots! . .The payment part is as accurate as I can tell at the moment, based on personal circumstances.. .. .Ps - how's you hour building going