In the "for-what-it's-worth" department, I havn't read any post in this thread to this point that is wrong or that I wouldn't agree with from start to finish. That is precisely why I think that Westhawk has hit the nail, squarely on the head -- and, I think that too much toulouse has said the same thing in perhaps the most eloquent manner. Right-on gentlemen (with full knowledge and understanding of the term)!