Crab: I think you'll find the opposite is true. Those gazelles without SAS suffer this phenomenon more so:. .. .AAIB 2002/1 the gazelle crash report states:. .. ."EUROCOPTER remind you that in some configurations (hover flight, flight at low speed in light wind etc), starting a turn to the left can induce a high-rate turn if the pilot does not apply quickly the suitable position to the yaw pedal. If the pilot attempts to counter this high-rate turn by applying the amount of right yaw pedal that corresponds only to hover flight control, this is not sufficient to start actual deceleration, thus allowing the pilot to regain his bearings. . .. .In this situation, right yaw pedal, and if necessary, full right yaw pedal, must be applied quickly, and held, to stop the turn to the left. Any delay in complying with this procedure will increase the time necessary to slow the helicopter. This effect is NORMAL and must not give rise to doubts as to the performance of the tail rotor. In all cases, the helicopter will stop turning. . .. .A reminder is also given that all turns to the left, in hover flight conditions or at slow speed, must be made applying moderate left rudder.' . .. .Additionally, the Ministry of Defence Gazelle (All Marks) Aircrew Manual, Advance Information Leaflet 1/93, contained the following information relating to loss of yaw control in the hover:. .. .'In light wind conditions, an extremely rapid build up of yaw rate can follow a relatively small left pedal application during low speed flight or in the hover, particularly with the ASE disengaged. In this event, immediate and positive application of right pedal, up to the maximum, should be applied and maintained to arrest the rate of yaw. Recovery action may be ineffective if the pedals are returned only to the hover position, and the yaw rate may initially continue to increase before deceleration and an eventual steady hover is established. Furthermore, if the pedals are not returned as far as the original hover position, a steady hover will never be achieved and the aircraft will stabilise at a particular rate of yaw which may be very high. Pilots may misinterpret this as a loss of yaw control. Be warned that any delay in applying corrective action will require progressively larger right pedal inputs to achieve a steady state hover and may lead the pilot to believe that he has lost control. Yaw rates of up to 165° per second to the left can rapidly be arrested by applying full right pedal without any discernable loss of fenestron performance. In the hover and at low forward speeds, ensure that pedal turns to the left are always made slowly and smoothly.' ". .. .Personally I put it down to the Army's size 15 boot <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" />