I escaped some time ago,but I have one of the HK guys on hols here at the moment.Just about to crack a bottle of red and ask him.Got my ear plugs ready,and the swear box emptied
From an ex HK atc'ers point of view it's more when rather than if,but I think something serious will have to happen, before the locals can convince the Civil Service.Just hope no-one gets hurt or dies before management listen,and get experience back in there.