Oldbeefer, good morning, we are normally taught to keep the greasy side down, but I for one would be very interested to hear of your U/s down trip, I have heard that Gazelles are the only one which are capable of this, have seen some Mil pilots do some strange things,but never actually seen one totally rolled ( in the air that is),or was it looped? you could E me, if this is not for the view of bright lights.