was on a 146 back in the mid 80's GCI to JER was totaly un aware of the shut down of the no:4 engine just after becoming airborne, we used to refer to them as 14Sicks back then, not so much now as there are other newer aircraft around with teething troubles, no doubt the alleged snags with the "newish" DH-8 Q400 will be a thing of the past in years to come
