Isn't this thread supposed to be about the future? What we are getting, as always, are the dinosaurs who can't accept or use a 30 yr old FMC. Stick and rudder aeroplanes are going to disappear Airbus started the trend some time ago. Reliance upon automated flight systems, yes please, pilots screw up to often, i.e. the Cali tragedy, and the others at Habsheim, Mulhouse (Lorraine), the Persian Gulf, India, Japan, the very unstable approaches in automated aircraft in Miami, over Paris' etc. Many UK charter airlines are flying pilots with 200 hrs or so, they in general are able to understand and use current automatic systems which do have limitations but are old, the aviation world is looking to the future.