The ‘whining FSs and SNCOs’ will stop whining and complaining when Flight Safety, Health & Safety, Service Ethos, and Quality stop being compromised on a daily basis. But until then I for one hope they continue to whine, I can only imagine the stress trying to meet the programme with scant resources and then having their professionalism attacked by people such as the quoted Ops Officer. If you don't like what they are doing, try visting HLS/FLEC and running one of the trade desks or the flight line for a night SIR. Still once Trance 2 is announced the whining will stop, as to a man all of the SNCOs in the frame have applied to leave (and you think we have problems now!!!!). Most who have applied have said if they don’t get redundancy they will go anyway. DOES ANYONE CARE?