Lu Sez:
Blah blah blah ....
The Liberty Bell like many of your arguments has a big crack in it.
You mean like that I must have a lot of company in those CORRECT observations that you still HAVEN'T ADDRESSED?
You have made most of the personal attacks here, you have no Alternate Theory at all, just a misguided interpretation that you contnually try to apply to other things going on with the rotor, with flawed results because you started with a bad concept.
THERE IS NO ALTERNATE THEORY. AGAIN THE BROKEN RECORD...
I refer you back to Sling Load:
Concepts of Understanding are different from theories Lu, and you can't even understand that.
Your so called findings are based on "so and so told me this" " another fellow told me that". Findings!, they're nothing but heresay, inconclusive,and the result of an obsession. Get over it Lu. IT WORKS.
This is tiresome.
LU Zuckerman, the wannabe, all your posts are nothing more than questions asked so that you can continue to tell people that the answers given are incorrect and you are the one who knows all. They have NOTHING to do with learning, or to instruct, but whether your 18 deg concept is correct or not, so that you may continue to bash robbies. You have always had only this one track on your tiny little mind, you are not kidding anyone here.
The following is not an attack, but a correct observation, made prior to me saying it by many many others:
You are an arrogant, ignorant, wind up.
You really seem to get off thinking you are some kind of guru, that must be it. By continuing to just tell people that you have determined they are off, that they must be off, you could never be further than the truth.
You have never, NEVER given anyone a response that aggrees with them without a if and or but that allows you to continue this totally useless ranting.
Again this is no arguement, no alternate theory crap, nothing more than a continuation of your obsession with the Robinson.
AND FOR THE LAST TIME GET OFF THAT DIFFERENCE IN TRAINING GARBAGE, both sides of the pond have told you you are off, it is just another excuse.
You also take 5 responses in JH and tailor then to suit you, not the way it was said TO you.
(Not to mention the mispelling of gyroscopic in the thread title ...)
So now you presume to tell people what they formulated?
Nope, they formed it by BOTH instruction AND FLYING, something YOU STILL HAVE NOT DONE !
This is WHY pilots do BOTH.
And you still have not answered the following (and when you do lets not make if's and s or but's, nor other excuses):
For all these supposed "Attacks" that have been made on you from I, tell us, without excuse, why SO many people out there from different parts of the planet:
taught in different manners(according to you)
Flying a vast range of machines (where you fly NONE)
Test pilots (whom you are not)
Designers (where you are not)
Commercial pilots (that you are not)
Would ALL come to the same conclusion that you are full of !!!!!?
And we are not talking about your Robbie bashing, we are talking about the same conclusion that Sling came to in his post, he certainly didn't start out that way, he was a supporter of seeing if you were right, JUST HOW did that happen?
You cannot answer that one huh ?
You will continue to piss off / annoy others, continue to go round and round, excuse after excuse, and eventually you will have no one to converse with. Maybe then you will realize what everyone has told you is true.
For over a year and a half PPRuNer's have been subjected to your crap concept, you have brought forth NOTHING NEW to your end of the so called "arguement."
You needlessly waste everyone's time with the same sad pattern of excuses, redirection, misinterpretation, tailoring what IS said to you to what you WANT to hear, etc.
After all that time the 18 deg issue is still dead wrong, it will continue to be dead wrong, and remain dead wrong. For as it has been pointed out, you cannot make a mistake a fact by preaching.
Basically this thread has gone in the same direction as ALL your others here. And I didn't even get involved with it until you strayed off track, you stray off track because you don't like the 18 deg concept dead station the train heads into each and every time it's discussed.
Quite frankly you are a bitter old man with an obsession that you will take with you to the grave, and even then it will be unproven. (BTW that is not an attack, it is a fact, submitted by plenty others on this forum prior to my saying so, evidence submitted, look at all the other posts here, anyone ...)
Well, it is the weekend, I shall be out flying.
Say something stupid Lu, make another childish comment towards me while I'm out doing something you seemingly cannot handle, flying a Robinson. Whatever it takes to avoid the issue of your refusal to know when you are done.
Just a bitter old man ... I need not say more on the subject, you do a better job of illustrating what I stated previously about you for the last two years ...
[ 17 August 2001: Message edited by: RW-1 ]