Poor poor Lu,
Well since you don't wish to heed what I and Nick have said, let's just keep it to the rest of the planet ...
Heed Sling loads and john's postings above, oh yes, here you could go to the Robbie Factory school, and sleep through the same sections you must have at those supposed 6 Sikorsky schools and the supposed 13 more.
So in essance you have stated you have ZERO flying skills what so ever, notice how you gave a great big "I'm just being attacked" para without directly answering the question of stick time ...
AGAIN: Never in my life has there been a person more in need of an hour of dual actual flight instruction...
You have made large mistakes in recalling a lot of things, but you have NOT corrected them, it goes round and round with you and therein lies the reason this hasn't ended, not for anyone else's part.
No, FR response made sense to anyone who UNDERSTOOD ALL the principles behind it.
YOU DIDN"T, and therefore to you it is crap.
(Heed slings comments again, I don't see why FR doesn't slap a lawsuit on you anyway, that certainly would server to both prove the design AGAIN, and embarrass you both financially and professionaly.)
Arrogant is the person with no experience who asks all to prove him right.
Ignorant is the person who cannot accept that they are wrong, when proven so.
You are both in a huge way.
So I don't have to say it again, just re-read EVERYTHING Sling Load stated, for it rings true. Aww heck, I will say it again:
You are not the professional, your course attendance does not give you any right to say "Well prove me wrong" to the true professionals here, they have explained it, your FAILURE to understand the answer does not make the facts invalid, nor raise your flawed thinking of the topic to a theory level. Period.
Proof: you repeatedly return to the same stupid, proven wrong misunderstanding on FTE and EOL, and you believe you are right based only on what others say to you (which leads to your misunderstandings again) and what you have read.
You have NO practical experience to be making the claims that you do here on the Robbie issue, to be giving aero advice, and certainly as I have stated many many many many many many many many times:
People don't have to prove you wrong, you have to prove you are right. You will not do that on the basis of misdirection, third party comments, what you read somewhere etc. GET IN A HELICOPTER AND GENERATE DATA.
Since you are unable/unwilling to get into a heli to do so, it's done.
You state a differing answer from Ray, well to tell the truth, to all here, it is more likely you didn't understand or again misinterpreted the answer given to you, for to do that leave you room to uselessly argue the matter, whereas if you did, then the answer is the same and Nick's, Mine, Sling's, Arm out the window's, FR's, the rotor gods themselves, and the rest of the planet. Something that would spell "END OF THREAD for LZ."
THE MATTER IS CLOSED.
Now, that said, for all these supposed "Attacks" that have been made on you from I, tell us without excuse why SO many people out there from different parts of the planet;
taught in different manners(according to you)
Flying a vast range of machines (where you fly NONE)
Test pilots (whom you are not)
Designers (where you are not)
Commercial pilots (that you are not)
Would ALL come to the same conclusion that you are full of !!!!!?
And we are not talking about your Robbie bashing, we are talking about the same conclusion that Sling came to in his last post, he certainly didn't start out that way, he was a supporter of seeing if you were right, JUST HOW did that happen?
Hmmm ?
I end this with the best thing that Sling pointed out to you, you do need to study it, for it busts the "Well I got a different theory (you don't) or I heard form another person" line of crap:
Concepts of Understanding are different from theories Lu, and you can't even understand that.
Your so called findings are based on "so and so told me this" " another fellow told me that". Findings!, they're nothing but heresay, inconclusive,and the result of an obsession. Get over it Lu. IT WORKS.
[ 16 August 2001: Message edited by: RW-1 ]