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Old 22nd Jul 2005, 15:43
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The remark about VFR vs IFR is interesting - an important part of IFR which is often not used....below 3000' clear of cloud you are exempt from 1000' above the highest object - therefore if flying in VMC under IFR or VFR the height you can legally fly at is the same.

(as an aside - it is also often misunderstood that once above 3000' it is very easy for the average pilot to become IMC even though they are actually flying *visually*.)

The only difference therefore is IMC on an instrument approach. Minima are defined by the procedure and personnel licensing (IMC/IR). Additionally you have the approach ban as well.

However, I havent ever really investigated the legality of descending below MSA on an unpublished approach...I personnally would have thought that it wasnt allowable - but I cant remember if there is an exemption for an approach - I will certainly check the wording in UK AIM tonight!!!

Just a thought but as we are talking MSA the fact its over the sea is not entirely relevent - as the landfall would be within the catchment area for MSA calculation.

Additionally NOTHING below 300' makes it onto our charts - that is not just 300' agl but 300' asl!!! Thus making it at least 1300' agl - even over the sea, as you would have to allow for an object up to 299' on the beach, or 1mile out...
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