Agree totally Jock Pi. From what we're hearing across the road, the idiots will be thrown out when ASCOT Ops is subsumed in to Brize Ops and the savings of chopping them will allow aircrew to be put on the ops desk to manage both DOC jobs in one (and still only work half as hard or as long as on sqn). From what I hear if OC Ops gets his way ASCOT will die a death in the new year, the non-flight non-ops buffoons will get binned and the ops clerks sent back to flight planning where they belong (there isn't a good looking one worth sending over here). And not a moment too soon in my view. Roll on getting pilots in there to do the job properly - just as long as PMA don't send me!