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Old 9th Jul 2005, 15:59
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Hey leave Maggie Thatcher out of this, she's a legend.
7006 you do talk some c**p sometimes.
Yes lo-co do try and push their luck at airports, but on the whole I think you'll find that many an airport wouldn't last without them now. Look at Stansted they must make money yet probably 95% of their movements are lo-co.
On the issue of contributing to the global warming effect, yes aircraft do pollute but not as much as cars would if every person drove to where they are going.
The other thing is that in the UK aviation pays 11euros to the public budget for every 1000 passenger km travelled. On the other hand for every 1000 passenger km travelled on a train cost the public budget 35euros. This is similar in other european countries as well so is not just a one off.
Another interesting fact is that aircraft travelling at altitude actually create ozone and so help close the wholes in the ozone layer.
Also the particules in all fuels that are unburt are actually stopping the global warming effect as they reflect heat from the sun. So we have the situation where by if tomorrow we all stopped burning any fuels the global warming effect would increase over night (this has been scientifically proven).
I'm not saying we should keep polluting the planet far from it but the problem is that with cleaner fuels being developed all the time we have the situation where by the global warming effects will gradually increase. But if we stop burning tomorrow the planet will warm up even quicker. We have reached the stage where by we a damned if we do and damned if we don't.
Also how do lo-co help create world poverty? Remember aircraft use components from all over the world. For instance Boeing have factories and use suppliers in China which ok probably don't pay their work force as much as in the USA but don't pay them a pittance compared to what other workers in China will be on.
Oil comes from all over the world but more and more is coming from Africa and again those employed in it's extraction will be payed very well compared to their nations average. Think of all the fabrics for seats some must come from places like Afica and Asia where the majority of poorer nations are.
What about those lo co in places like India that are employing people in skilled jobs, can't see that these are contributing to global poverty.
I could go on but am now getting bore and fustrated at someone so narrow minded as 7006
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