Avman - guess you're right. Sorry if I upset anyone out there.. I get a bit blase having "talked" to Royal Flights many times. Always found it amusing that Northolt used to "close" for about 15 mins either side of a Royal Flight from Heathrow whilst we used to treat them like any other. I actually put HMQ in the Bovingdon hold once - no wonder I missed out on an OBE!