"Like trying to get information from a secret society"Hmmn. . ."The best we could achieve". Christ it hasn't changed one little bit since BM fifteen/ twenty years ago.Do yourself a favour guys,open your eyes and ask why,exactly bloody why, your CC constantly underachieves? In BM the answer was simple, CC today/management next day;Oh, and all members of the same"club",the more things change the more they stay the same.