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Old 30th Jun 2005, 17:09
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Dr. Evil
 
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the only ATC-generated midair involving two aircraft under it's positive control didn't happen in the U.S., and those Swiss-control controllers couldn't even claim being busy.
AMF! F**K YOU!!!! Nothing to do with the topic and a controller was killed subsequently. You son of a b**** who do you think you are? First of all read the final investigation report from Ueberlingen, secondly you have to learn you own aviation history, here is a few examples from God's own land of crap:

49 years ago today, on June 30, 1956, a TWA L-1049 Super Constellation collided with a United Airlines DC-7 over Grand Canyon, Arizona. All 128 passengers and crew aboard both aircraft were killed.

1960: two aircraft over NYC collied in a holding pattern

that's the early days!

1991: remember LAX USAir B737 and the Metroliner?
The aircraft was cleared to land on runway 24L at LAX. The controller had also cleared a Skywest Metroliner to taxi into position and hold midpoint down the runway, with the intention of clearing it for takeoff before the USAir jet landed. The controller never cleared the Metroliner for takeoff, and at night, it was virtually invisible to the USAir crew. As the 737 touched down, the crew noticed the aircraft on the runway and attempted to avoid it. The 737 was travelling 140 knots, however, and was unable to veer off the runway in time. ATC separation error.

And what about all the incidents, which luckily never went totally wrong???

I feel sorry for the people involved and the innocent lives killed, so AMF stop the bull****, you are not better than anyone else, we're in the same boat whether its Africa, Asia or Alabama. ATC is here to do our best, we're after all human (unlike your posts).

9/11 was a disaster and so was the security and the alerting system to scramble F15s etc. What did ATC/NORAD do? Sleep? Hello! 4 aircraft were in a similar situation but nothing happened, well we all saw the pictures on CNN....

To ALL US controllers (read: only the John Wayne cowboys)

Have you introduced "AVIATION SAFETY MANAGEMENT SYSTEM" into your ATM yet??? Have you also heard about "hot spots"? Basically try to avoid unnecessary conflicts!!

And have you tried to follow ICAOs recommendations like the rest of the world?

Enough said
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