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Old 22nd Jun 2005, 20:29
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US flights from/into MAN not using SIDS/STAR's?

Evening PPRUNE,

Ive noticed on alot of flightplans that US carriers such as Continental, Delta and AA dont use the default MIRSI or DAYNE STARs when they arrive from the North or West, also they go DCT to NOKIN when using a SID also instead of following the actual SID

if you look at the AA flightplan below you will see that AA went DCT from DUB VOR via LYNAS waypoint straight into MAN...

ARCID/ AAL158
DOF/ 050225
ADEP/ KMIA
ADES/ EGCC
EOBT/ 2330z
ROUTE/ KMIA DCT VALLY AR7 SATLY A761 DOWNT A700 ENGLE DCT FORTE DCT YQX NATV MALOT NATV BURAK UN536 DUB UL975 LYNAS DCT EGCC
TTLEET/ 0805
SPEED/ N0468
RFL/ F330

And a SID....

ARCID/ AAL157
DOF/ 041217
ADEP/ EGCC
ADES/ KMIA
EOBT/ 1135z
ROUTE/ EGCC DCT NOKIN UN862 BHD UN864 SALCO UM30 RUSIB UN484 REGHI UN480 ETIKI DCT 4700N/01500W DCT 4620N DCT 4430N DCT 4240N DCT 4050N DCT 3660N DCT BALOO DCT PRISS DCT N6A DCT LOUIZ DCT N6A DCT NUCAR DCT HEATT HEATT6 KMIA
TTLEET/ 1004
SPEED/ N0472
RFL/ F300

So why do US carriers not use the default SIDS/STARS, is it too reduce flight time, what?


would like to hear an good PPRUNE explanation i know you guys are capable


Scott Waterworth
BMI701EGCC