If certain professionals want to go around and make themselves appear as idiots then it is not my problem. If they do not wish to conform to the rules then that is up to them. Fortunately, my initial post is true. I know the names of the controllers involved and even the names of some of the passengers on the second aircraft. My initial question was regarding aviation safety and whether this practice happens elsewhere, and if it does it should be stopped. Do you think that the police pick on criminals and publicly humiliate them by sending them to court for breaking the law?