On a Hiller 12(with soloy) the blades are controlled by two paddles set near the inboard portion of the disc. The cyclic moves, the paddles move and then the blades move.. .. .The paddles are very small.. .. .Practicing longline with one in Idaho (6000') I got into it a few times. In one case I had put a twenty foot tag line, the log itself and about 125 feet of the longline on the ground before I was able to get out of it. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> . .. .The one important thing for me was recognizing the onset. With your head completely outside doing vertical ref work the easiest way to see it coming was to make gentle circular movements with the cyclic.. .. .If the fuselage was responding appropriately all was good.. .. .When you made the circles and nothing was happening or the movement was really slow you were about to get into it.. .. .Eventually flying that aircraft you just flew around always referencing your cyclic input to desired effect. When it wasn't right alarm bells went off.. .. .Next time your up practicing check the "feel" of the controls as you get close to and then in the problem. Set your alarm clock for that "feel".. .. .I'm sure you'll get better tips here but that worked for me.