Other way round.. .. .Start from 80 kt cruise. Selecting 60 kt Attitude will initiate the climb. Then you increase Power to get the rate of climb you want, and finally Trim the aircraft.. .Initiating the climb by increasing power whilst maintaining the 80kt attitude would require more power and much less efficient.. .. .Again from 80kt cruise, reducing power and maintaining attitude will initiate the descent. To start descending with an attitude change implies diving the aircraft - not a good plan.. . . . <small>[ 27 March 2002, 21:45: Message edited by: Grainger ]</small>