Lu's stories about beer consumption on the job in Germany match my memories of many trips to MBB in Ottobrun and Donauworth. All the Germans would tell me they were used to it, they could handle it, etc., etc., but I saw several cases of obvious intoxication on the job that would have been grounds for immediate firing in North America.. .. .To be fair though, I never saw any flight crew drinking on the day they would be flying. The engineers were another story ....