As of Jan 02 nowhere semed to have a full proper ATPL(H) syllabus up and running. Reading between the lines I got the impression BGS was closest with a planned start during the first 1/4 of 2002.. .In the interim BGS are running a hybrid course. Uses fixed wing for all but the Heli priciples of flight and then Wagtendonks book for that topic. CAA have assured me (for all that at times is worth!) that all starting the hybrid course will be allowed sufficient time to finish it regardless of progress of 'proper' final course.. .I don't work with/for BGS and may be wrong in my interpretation buthave signed up with them for the hybrid course. First exams in July. Hope this doesn't add to the confusion..... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="confused.gif" />